Introduction
- A Web Page about the GENESIS Project Meeting 2008-04-24.
- The project is due to start 2008-10-01 and complete 2011-09-30 and this was a planning and introductory meeting. A wiki page was set up for the meeting on the NCeSS Sakai Portal GENESIS Worksite. It is publicly available via the following URL:
- Contents
People
- Attendees
- Others
- Project members
- Mentioned
Documentation
Agenda
- http://portal.ncess.ac.uk/access/content/user/GENESIS/Meetings/2008-04-24/Genesis-Agenda%20_2_.doc
- No additions to the preliminary agenda:
- Introductions
- Progress on the two existing nodes
- MOSES – Mark Birkin
- GeoVUE – Mike Batty
- The Genesis Proposal
- intros from Mark and Mike and then general discussion of these items from each member of the team/s but in the rough order suggested below
- The Change in Emphasis – Mark and Mike
- The core modelling themes
- Microsimulation
- Agent-based modelling
- Macro-modelling
- Visualisation
- Geodemographics
- Applications to Real Systems, UK, Leeds, London, anywhere else?
- The Project Plan
- Setting up a Work Program with Deliverables
- How do we make the Groups Work Together? Appropriate Synergy
- The Steering Group
- Quick Wins + NCeSS
- Interacting with NCeSS
- Conferences
- Infrastructure
- Budget Issues
- Date of Next Meeting
- AOB
Notes
- Nice Lunch at Prescatori :-)
- Richard has not followed up on the Virtual Vellum leads.
- He seems to know a bit about JPEG2000 and thought a performance and capabilities comparison between GoogleImageCutter and Virtual Vellum was a good project.
- No plans to Open Source any CASA software :-(
- I see this as a failure to engage in e-Science.
- I reckon they will lose by not gaining unless they open up...
- Andy and Richard in the process of launching MapTube.
- The meeting propper
- The Agenda guided us at times, but we sort of rambled over different items in an ad hoc fashion :-)
- No Internet Connection I can use as yet, but I think Andy is going to help me :-).
- Mark introduced MoSeS as Modelling and Simulation *in* e-Social Science
- How important is that little word I wonder...
- Mike noted that in GeoVUE they are not going to acheive what they originally set out to do.
- The specification of deliverables and project management and documentation seems to be evolving in the same way iot did for the e-Infrastructure for the Social Sciences Project
- Surely this is no accident, but it seems we are falling into this rather than it being imposed.
- One view is that ESRC will not be too bothered about how we spend the funding so long as there are some research outputs.
- Another view is that we should try to stick to the program of work outlined in the proposal and work plan.
- How to relate to NCeSS
- Reporting
- Meetings in Manchester
- Collaboration with other NCeSS Nodes
- We went through and introduced the various Nodes of NCeSS old and new and dwelt on some that seemed most relevant:
- Policy Grid
- Agent Modelling of Rural Areas
- Close in spirit to what we are doing in MoSeS/GENESIS
- OeSS
- DAMES
- I outlined what we are doing developing a GLS for the NeSS Project
- Nobody seemed interested, so I kept it very brief.
- External to NCeSS important links
- It seems there is a lack of appreciation about what Grid computing is and what benefits it gives:
- Lots of talk of "The Grid" and how "Web 2.0" has taken over from it.
- I tried to explain the difference between NGS and other Grid computing resources
- I tried to outline some issues to do with data security and access to computational resources.
- I tried to explain that Grid Computing and Web 2.0 are actually quite different but complimentary.
- Maybe some of that sunk in, who knows, I didn't get much of a response...
- Need for a GENESIS architecture
- What high end computing will we need?
- Andy mentioned he may have a need for render farms for visualisation work.
- Primed, Alan asks about the use of a wiki :-)
- Decided to use the NCeSS Sakai Portal :-)
- I am to ask Xiaobo Yang to set this up for us and start the registration process for those without accounts.
- Is GENESIS more about research or infrastucture building?
- Are GeoVUE doing the housing bits and MoSeS doing the retail bits?
- OPUS
- What standards do we need to adhere to?
- Let's do it all ad hoc...
- MoSeS did not sign a Hub node agreement did GeoVUE?
- Need for a Work Package 0 for Project Management/Admin
- We decided to take the work plan seriously and went through it in detail.
- I won't detail this here!
- Mark will edit the document and then Work Package leaders will be made responsible for Deliverable Specification using the wiki.
- How do we get more resources for this and related work?
- GENESIS can be a platform for further grant applications
- Encouraged to write working papers/wiki pages about what is going on as it happens :-)
- Who is going to write the final report for GENESIS?
- Need to ensure the minimum requirements is met
- Steering group
- Date of next meeting
- Post meeting Drink :-)
References/Links
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